Another Obama / W. Bush similarity!  Bush has been calling for volunteers since he took office yet no one seems to remember.  link

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  I mean, your argument is that she's unqualified but somehow Obama is better.  Obama wasn't Governor of anything.  He was a 1 term Senator.  He didn't lead anything.  He never voted against his party.  Did he ever have a real job?  I dunno.  He has like ZERO leadership skills when looked at his history.  You feel comfortable electing him to negotiate with Russia, Iran, etc.  But you feel Palin is bad because she has MORE experience than Obama does but less than McCain. 

The problem with you Obama voting folks is that you aren't looking at who you are choosing, you are just making sure you don't choose a Republican.  But if you really looked at the issues and Obama's experience and what he actually plans to do when he's in office, you might actually realize that your alternative is not a solution, it's a bigger problem.

Smoke and mirrors, it's just smoke and mirrors.  Do I want Palin as President, no.  Should McCain have picked someone else?  Yea, probably.  But should Obama have picked Hillary instead of Biden?  Yes.  Biden was a terrible choice.  I have no idea why Obama went with him.  Talk about a blow-hard.  You're gonna elect that guy for the next four years to make an ass out of himself.

  Doesn't matter, this dicussion, I honestly believe McCain doesn't have a chance in hell of winning.  I just don't agree with the masses choosing someone so far over to the left with a Democratic congress. 

  Right now though, the way the economy is about to implode, we'll all be lucky if we even make it to the next election before China just buys the country. 

As I've indicated numerous times it depends on what comes out in the debates.  If I had to vote today, I'm not voting for Obama.  The fact is, he's going to raise taxes and put people out of work.  Rather than raise taxes and spend more on programs, we need to check spending.  The Government is spending us into doom.

Obama will raise taxes to fund programs and build out Government.  That's what Democrats do. 

The problem with most Dems is that they look at the Bill Clinton years and think it was alright then.  But Bill was a Reagen like conservative with the Government's money.  He wasn't fully to the left like other Democrats who believe in socialism as norm. 

Obama WILL raise the price of your utilities in two ways.  Cap and Trade, which will boost your electricity prices, and windfall profit tax on oil companies.  His "plan" is to give you a $1000 tax rebate from the windfall tax on the oil companies which you can use to pay off your soon to be soaring electric bill.

The funny thing about Government is that you get somethings and you don't get others.  They'll more than likely raise your electric bill and your gas bill, but you'll never see that Rebate check because the Dems will put so many riders on it for expanding unemployment benefits, paying for school bus paint, and other nonsense that you'll never see it. 

A fully loaded Democratic congress with a Democratic President is BAD for the country.  Any country.  It's one party rule.  You just have to look all through history to realize the mistake that is.

You have Government works all in cahoots with each other that can pass every bill they've ever wanted without challenge. 

If you had McCain in office, he wouldn't do much.  That's good.  The congress is controlled by the Democrats.  The Republicans and Democrats would have to work together to find common ground on every bill being passed.  With Obama, you have a rubber stamp administration for Nancy Pelosi.

Is the world going to stop with Obama as President?  No.  But are we going to pay more taxes, higher utility and gas bills, and have an expanded Government with more social services?  Oh yea... 

Assuming the Government isn't bankrupt by then.

At least Obama knows who the frickin' President of Spain is. Did you hear about McCain not wanting to meet with him? LMAO. McCain was talking about Mexico while the interviewer was talking about SPAIN.

I thought this guy was a Maverick.

DRILL BABY DRILL!!!!

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I don't think Kevin is against Obama because he's black.

Kevin's black. Or at least his heart is.

Anyway, I like Obama for his issues and policies. He has an iPhone app, you should download it.

The Republicans are now pointing fingers, seeing that this could be the end of the "Reagan era".

I'd be happy to see less douchebags like Pwn Hannity and Rush Limbitch.

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Nimbus, MicFri has something tuned into his head where every white person is racist (Including you) so just ignore him.  I think he drinks and starts thinking he needs to take up a flag for civil rights because people on a video game forum are repressing people.

  At this point, I'm not even concerned about the President anymore.  If Congress gets 60 Democrats, the President will completely not matter.  And it's looking likely the Dems will get that magic number.  Even if they don't, they'll only need to persuade one or two Republicans to switch whenever they need it.  60 is a really scarey number for this country.  The last time we had that was in the Carter administration, and look what a total fucking disaster that was.  You mentioned the end of the Regean era.  The Carter administration created the Regean era by being a fucking mess of Democrats passing tons of social shit and weakening our military. 

  For those that don't know.  When one side of congress has a majority of members, the weaker side can slow bills down by fillibustering.  It's a stupid process of talking and talking and talking to keep congress in session long enough for there to be no-vote on the bill.  It's mainly used as a theat against bad bills.  So the Democrats (Who are in power now) have to work with the republicans (Who aren't) to get bills passed that everyone likes.  BUT!  If the Democrats have 60 members, they can vote to end the filibuster and move the bills to a vote.  Giving the Republicans no power at all.  (They might as well not even show up to work.  Seriously.) 

  So every bill gets passed without discussion.  And with Obama in office, he'll rubber stamp them all into law. 

  Right now, Nancy Pelosi is preparing to call back congress after the election to pump out a 150 billion dollar "stimulous" plan to expand social services like unemployment benefits, and state Government programs.  The difference between the 700 billion and this new 150 billion is that we "might" get the 700 billion back.   The new 150 billion plan that the Democrats are creating is just money out the window.  Probably gonna be full of more riders.  And we don't have that money to spend!!!  We just raised the national debt to pay the 700 billion, and now the Democrats are adding another 150 billion.  All of which is money we borrow from China.  Unreal!

  Don't believe that bullshit about using the money to fix roads and build schools.  They are passing a bill full of earmarks.  And when they take power, they are gonna put the screws to your paycheck to pay for all of it.

  I see a world where the Internet gets taxed, and we pay to send emails so the money can be redistributed to the postal service.  I really do.  I hope it doesn't happen, but they are gonna need to find trillions of dollars somewhere.

  This idea that Obama will raise taxes on the wealthy and that you and I won't have to pay one extra cent is insane.  Does anyone here think that if Walmart has to pay more in taxes that their prices won't go up?  That food won't get more expensive?  That services won't get more expensive?  Rich people are still gonna be rich. They aren't going to suddenly decide that they can do without their usual amount of money.  They'll just raise prices to pay for the new taxes, and you and I will be paying for it.

  And then throw in cap-n-trade (Where industry has to buy CO2 clean energy credits from clean energy providers) and who is gonna pay for those credits?  You'd be a fool to think that the power company or steel industry or manufacuring company is going to reduce their profits.  No, they will raise prices.  In fact, both candidates know that and are trying to come up with creative ways to tax companies even MORE to give you a tax break.  It's madness.

  Then, the new Obama health plan that is mandatory.  So that you either pay out the ass for a private insurer, or they garnish your wages by taking a percentage to pay for the health plan.  And the people working at the car wash, or McDonalds, or TJ Max, or at the concession stand at a football game will be FORCED to buy medical insurance.  And if the companies pay it, they will raise prices, or if the employee pays it, they will get paid less money.  Paid less in an economy of businesses all rasing prices to pay for the new taxes.

  All of this is going to happen.  It's all on Obama's website.  Just read it and use your brain.  The Government (Both sides) are spending money on earmarks, and you and I are about to pay for it in a big way.

  If you were thinking of making some major purchases in your life, you should really consider buying them this holiday season.  Due to the economy situation, lots of stores will surely have mega discounts to move products out, and it'll be before Obama and the new Democratic congress hits office and begins their taxation and socialization plans which will raise the price of everything and lower your tax home pay.

Who wants to bet me $10 that in the next 8 years there will be a video game tax passed? 

rapier wrote So what would your solution be then Kevin?  Tax the low and middle income earners instead, and give the breaks to the rich, since the lower income earners can't pass on the pain?  The people in your country seem to be so against any type of program designed to help the less fortunate.  I honestly don't get it, and to be honest, from the outside, it seems to scream a "Fuck you, I'm ok" mindset.

Well, that's the Republican mindset. Most of them don't give a shit about anyone. They see the world from a top-down perspective. Life isn't an RTS. People need help. Some people don't have boots to pull themselves up from their bootstraps. The system honesty does work against most people. Why is it required to register for selective service at 18, but not to vote?

McCain doesn't give a shit from Sherlock about the middle class. I don't even know what McCain is running on anymore. Really, wtf is he talking about at his rallies? Oh yeah, Obama. I think it's funny that people try to talk about Obama supporters. Seriously, how the hell can you vote for McCain and Palin? Seriously?! McCain really messed up when he picked Bullwinkle. We don't need a POW and a religious nut in the White House.

If the way Obama is running his campaign is any clue to how he might run the country, things are looking very good.

Now stand back...as the meek inherits the Earth!

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Edited by KJB:  Your response was approved.  It just took me a minute to add it.

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By the way, the United States has TONS of programs for poor and destitute people.  For one thing, why is that the Government has to handle it anyway?  Do you know how many charities there are in this country for things?  I had a friend who didn't want to pay her electricity bill and she called some church and they paid it for her!

  See, my beef here is that we have all these "non profit" organizations that collect money for charity and church.  These organizations don't pay any taxes at all.  They take their profits and typically pour them into the institution itself so no one party profits.  It's why churches are now at mega stadiums, and the priest drinks out of a gold chalice, and the Red Cross doesn't want to give up millions of dollars in donations until people call them on their bullshit. 

  The charity system in this country should be reworked so that a guaranteed percentage of the money goes to the victims in some form of tangible benefit.

  I used to do telemarketing (Horrible job) for a place called Midwest Publishing.  We'd cold call people to collect donations for the Amvets.   People could donate anywhere from around $100 to $20 depending on which pitch they fell for.   The glorious thing here is that Amvets only got (if memory serves me right) 14% of the money.  Midwest Publishing kept the rest as "operational expenses"

  Where it gets even MORE screwed up, is that they had this magazine they would send you if you elected to donate.  During the day, a team of salesmen would call businesses and get them to pay for advertising in the magazine.  They'd make thousands and thousands of dollars from this.  So people that donated would get a massive marketing newsletter in their mail, and only 14% of their dollar would go to the actual people that need it.

  It's why I never give to charity unless it's the salvation army bucket.  It's the only one I know that the money is going to where people need it.

  If Government could take the billions of dollars that are being wasted on charity and force these places to give that money (In food, shelter, whatever) to the people that need it.  You wouldn't have to create programs that tax payers pay for.

  But even if we look at it today.  Right now, if you have no money and no job, the Government gives you free medical care through Medicaid.  Hospitals, legally, can't turn you away anyway even if you didn't bother getting Medicaid.

  Almost all major utilities will wave off any bills owed if you're below the poverty line.

  The real problem