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 8/22/2008 10:59 AM
 
Redmond (WA) - If we didn’t know that Bill Gates will dedicate much of his future time to his charity, we would say that he could be enjoying his retirement from Microsoft as a part time actor, showcasing the talent he acted in commercials with Steve Ballmer and John Heder (at least he may have more talent than most IT executives). And even if that may not become reality, Gates will make his TV debut in September alongside Jerry Seinfeld, spearheading a gigantic anti-Apple campaign.     

Microsoft will begin firing its marketing artillery against Apple starting September 4 in an effort to derail Apple’s campaign to create of Mac computers as being cool and Vista PCs being failures. The ads will feature a "Windows, Not Walls" tagline and are expected to highlight Vista's openness and criticize Apple's integrated business model approach that leaves very little room for user requests. Jerry Seinfeld will add a touch of Hollywood, for which Microsoft reportedly paid $10 million.

The new ads are part of Microsoft's $300 million advertising campaign created to repair a damaged public image of the Windows Vista operating system. It is considered to be one of the largest marketing campaigns in Microsoft's history, which is believed to have been brought up by CEO Steve Ballmer. In a leaked memo, Ballmer informed his troops that the release of Vista SP1 enabled Microsoft to launch a new campaign. "Now it's time to tell our story," he wrote to Microsoft employees. "In the weeks ahead, we'll launch a campaign to address any lingering doubts our customers may have about Windows Vista."

According to the Wall Street Journal, the campaign will stress "breaking down barriers that prevent people and ideas from connecting." It is also expected to address the Zune music player and the perception that it is a failure. Apparently, Microsoft was considering many celebrity comedians, among them Chris Rock and Will Ferrell, but choose Jerry Seinfeld who is best-known for his sitcom.

We can’t wait see what a $10 million pay and many more millions in marketing funds can deliver and hope that we don’t see simply payback in the fashion of Apple’s Mac vs. PC commercials (a compilation can be found here) that, admittedly, can be considered to be insulting. We still remember the fantastic Windows 95 commercial and while we believe that Microsoft taking aim at Apple will not hurt, it surely would be nice to see Microsoft choosing that path again as well.
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 8/22/2008 11:07 AM
 
This is a smart idea.  Attacking Apple's closed proprietary business model is the smartest thing to come out of Microsoft's marketing department in a long time.  I could care less about Seinfeld, but since the Mac was a mainstay on the Seinfeld show, it'll probably irk some Mac users. 

Less interested in them trying to pimp the Zune.  While it is the better device for listening to podcasts, I think most people are tuned into the iPod and iTouch, and see the older iPods as retiring models.  Zune competing with them is a pointless exercise.  But it's probably being done to put pressure on Apple, which is also smart. 

$300 million is considerable, but not sweeping.  It makes you wonder why they waited so long.  Apple is so nimble, they'll likely fire back with something equally inventive while Microsoft's campaign is still running.  Microsoft needs to be a lot more nimble if they want to compete.

I sort of like this little OS war that is going on though.  It's been rather boring the last 10 years or so.
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 8/22/2008 5:47 PM
 
hopefully they totally rip off apples comercials that slam windows... white empty room and to people dripping with sarcasm.

I wanna see apple fans shit themselves when these spots hit the net.... you had it comin bitches.
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 8/23/2008 12:50 AM
 
soiled wrote
hopefully they totally rip off apples comercials that slam windows... white empty room and to people dripping with sarcasm.

I wanna see apple fans shit themselves when these spots hit the net.... you had it comin bitches.


Honestly, all they have to do is mention some video games, but do it in the style of the Mac commercials.

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 8/23/2008 10:17 PM
 
kevin i heard microsoft hired a nice high-priced marketing firm this time. i actually think they're going about this the right way too. they didn't hire people that are too young and hip to be compared to apple. i dunno if comedians are the best route but seinfeld should do.

you're probably right about apple firing back too, but i already know that the apple ads would get more attention if they were used.

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 8/24/2008 12:09 AM
 
Apple has been racking in so much money on the iPhone, they could take a week's App store sales and equal Microsoft's advertising budget here.  It should be fun to see the interesting things they come up with.  Now that Microsoft has finally woken up.
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 8/24/2008 12:47 AM
 
@breakdown:
you're right, why don't they just mention games??? they could have a nice ad that shows off gaming on vista, the new technologies, etc
but lets face it, microsoft has hired real MORONS to do their marketing in the past. since most firms involved in marketing use macs, they basically took photos of people using mac computers and put those on the microsoft.com website... this has happened to them on a number of occasions... so why MS hasn't taken the obvious and probably safest route isn't too shocking



here is a comic expressing the artist's predictions of what microsoft has planned for their ad campaign: http://www.ubersoft.net/comic/hd/2008/08/suggesting-alternate-vision

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 9/5/2008 12:41 PM
 
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 9/5/2008 3:59 PM
 
Saw that last night during Redskins/Giants game. I liked Bill Gates part, but I'm tired of Seinfeld. This is actually a shorter version than the one I saw.

Duct tape is like the force – it has a light side and a dark side and binds everything together.
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 9/5/2008 6:03 PM
 
i know people the people of this board generally hate you if you disagree with anything from Microsoft but that commercial was a fucking waste of their time, money and efforts. yeah people are "talking" about it, but mainly about how it felt like a pointless piece of modern art that you either don't get or have to get someone else to explain it to you which ruins the joke entirely.

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 9/5/2008 9:04 PM
 
I think this board is frequented mainly by Mac owners. At the very least it's 50/50.

That said, I think hardcore Mac fans were waiting for some point-counterpoint article about Vista and OSX and instead got a light humor piece and are now confused. Here's the thing... It's an episodic commercial. This is part 1. It's like the introduction. I'm sure part 2 will find them in a car discussing Microsoft Sync, and the next will be Vista, and the next will be Xbox, etc.

I don't think they'll ever mention Apple. What for? Apple barely shows their own OS in their commercials. They spend all their time talking about Windows. So Microsoft will talk about Windows as well and not give Apple any free commercial time.

Whether or not that works to make Windows and Microsoft's products look better in the public's eye is questionable. But this first piece is to get people familiar with the characters and the layout of the commercial, because the next ones will surely be built the same way. And if people enjoyed this one, they'll probably watch the next ones. And the next ones will contain some content.

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 9/6/2008 11:49 AM
 
I guess you can call me a mac owner, though I use both systems...
I'd classify myself as a person that uses both systems, that prefers macs slightly over PCs.
I can trouble shoot problems on both system(well actually XP and OSX, i haven't used vista that much) so i feel comfortable with both. I feel being comfortable is the most important aspect.

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 9/6/2008 2:06 PM
 
That commercial really sucked. It's way too long, and it isnt even that funny. Hopefully the rest are short and sweet.
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 9/6/2008 2:09 PM
 
I just saw this recently on television and its got nothing on Justin Long, anyways as an apple guy I gotta say imitation is the most sincerest form of flattery.
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 9/6/2008 6:32 PM
 
@kevin:
are you sure its episodic? i mean i know they will have more ads. but will they build upon this one or just go off and have chris rock helping bill gates buy a new belt or sandwich? maybe will farrell will ask bill gates if they can make silly wigs for his computer so he can have a matching computer in his films.

i do get the humor in it, but its not even very good. its dated and feels contrived since gates isn't an actor. i did like the self-deprecating joke he made about himself however with the membership club card. its just that they are spending $300mln on this new campaign and have started it off with a boring tale about chewy computers and shoes.

now i want to see the will farrell one because thats the only one that can be funny.

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 9/6/2008 8:05 PM
 
Yes, I'm sure. Microsoft announced it as such. It'll be Seinfeld and Gates. This was just the introduction one. There is going to be a string of them.

Unlike US computer nerds, the general public hasn't seen the Bill Gates farewell ads and other things that have poked fun at him in the past. Some folks probably don't even know what Gates looks like now. (Not that he looks like much.) It's like an introduction, they all know Seinfeld, so they setup this situation where Seinfeld runs into Gates and he follows him around.

Who knows if it'll work, I'm just explaining the context of WHY they made the commercial the way they did. Not that I think it was crap either, we've all seen this sort of thing before. We're just more sensitive to it because there is this supposed "War" going on between the computer OS's and folks are sensitive. It's just a commercial afterall. They're never that good.

And really, I think the first commercial's budget was larger than Apple's entire OSX commercial budget for the past two years. Two guys talking is some cheap ass advertising. I expect, however, that Apple will mock these ads pretty quickly. Apple really enjoys showing off how nimble they are.

Am I gonna want an iPod Nano next week?

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 9/7/2008 12:26 PM
 
"Am I gonna want an iPod Nano next week?" - if a comedian named John Hodgman says you do, then you do ;)

now heres something that MS is doing right with that $300mln campaign fund:
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080905/microsoft_image.html?.v=2

they're going to put Microsoft Gurus (sounds familiar...) in retail stores to help users with their PC purchases (not provide support however) and demonstrate how vista will integrate with other MS products. a very good move and money well spent. see, even i can praise satan's clever moves ;)

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 9/7/2008 6:38 PM
 
 Modified By anonymous  on 9/7/2008 6:41:33 PM
That commercial was very boring. The only part that got a "heh" out of me was Bill Gates membership card that had his mugshot pic on it. They shouldn't have chosen someone whose career was made analyzing the mundane. As others have said I think they should talk about games or perhaps compatibility which encompasses games. But that's coming from a gamer. :P
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 9/8/2008 12:04 AM
 
they were buying shoes and crap...

where was the ad?

OS X was created in 1999, that was last millenium, just saying

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 9/8/2008 9:19 AM
 
Micfri wrote
OS X was created in 1999, that was last millenium, just saying


Yeah the original was. leopard only came out like a year ago right? That's OSX 10.5
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 9/10/2008 9:22 PM
 
that's a patch nutman

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 9/10/2008 11:19 PM
 
OSX is kind of a strange OS anyway.  It's like two operating systems.  It's Unix (Darwin) which you can write programs for and they'll run in OSX.  And there is Cocoa which is really NEXTSTEP's Rhapsody that Apple bought a long while ago.  That's because the ORIGINAL MacOS was such a piece of ass-paper that they had to purge themselves of its uncleanliness.  (It didn't multitask for shit and didn't have protected memory.)

I imagine the goal for OS11 is to make it type safe.  The biggest problem with Objective-C is the lack of strong typing.  At least brand new developers working souly with 10.5 and up can use some garbage collection, but if they use any old piece of code, they have to manage it themselves.  Apple needs to go where Microsoft went with .NET and build a type-safe environment for developers.  Only then will they really have no crashes on the iPhone and applications that don't just vanish while you're working with them.  And maybe allow the phone to multitask properly.

In the meantime, you get upgrades.  Is Apple even working on OS11? 


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 9/12/2008 3:38 PM
 
 Modified By Knowledge  on 9/12/2008 3:41:49 PM
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 9/13/2008 5:50 PM
 
i think its only appropriate that slashdot's article is quoted here:
"Microsoft Causes Internal Family Strife"

"Fresh from its ad featuring Bill Gates and Jerry Seinfeld eating churros and discussing shoes, Microsoft has introduced a new advertisement in which the aging former CEO and comedian take up residence with a family, causing infighting and malicious plots by the family members. Although the ad does not mention Microsoft's operating system directly, it does mirror the real world experience of the company's products — appearing where not wanted, hard to remove, causing administration headaches, and finally being forced out in hopes of getting one's living space back."

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 9/14/2008 12:18 AM
 
i saw the ad when i was watching NBC earlier. I didnt get it, like I didnt get the first ad.
when the end part came up where it was like "PC, People Connect" I thought it looked like the opposite was happening in the commercial....

we will see how the rest of these ads turn out...

SegamanXero
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 9/14/2008 11:05 AM
 
the 2nd ad is actually a lot better, check out the long version

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 9/15/2008 9:50 AM
 
The first ad is just an introduction.
The second ad is Microsoft admitting that they've made some mistakes.  Showing that Microsoft has lost touch with normal households.  Like the other ad, there are subtext pieces, but generally the ad is aimed at showing how Microsoft has failed to connect. 

Ultimately, the purpose of ALL of the ads, is to get people talking about them.  For better or worse, having brand in discussion groups is noted as a good thing.  I do think, however, that more thought needs to go into the next episodes on relating to a purpose because folks are getting confused by the messages Microsoft is sending here. 

We'll see, it seems like we'll be getting one per week.
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 9/18/2008 2:57 AM
 
http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/09/17/its-over-for-seinfeld-but-crispin-porter-keeps-microsoft-business/

I guess they figured that the ads were quite stupid. I didn't see that as an anti-Apple ad though. It seemed like a viral M$ ad. Could be ok, if anyone actually gave a damn or thought that M$ was a "cool" company.

I liked the old Seinfeld show, but young people don't really know him. Not to mention that the ads make no damn sense. What M$ (yeah, that's how it's spelled) needs to do is focus on the 360, to continue "acting" like Vista is great, and to quit the Mojave shit...it just shows that you have no real confidence in your product.

What Apple need to do is just make a darn commercial with someone using iLife on an iMac. Just show someone using Mac OS X for god's sake. Make it simple and keep it cool...like the iPod commercials.

Microsoft has a very hard time at coming across as "hip" or "the 'in' thing". They remind me of John McCain trying to use the "Change" slogan.

Microsoft need to stop chasing everyone in the tech industry and focus on making their bread and butter work better. If they don't, more PC companies like HP might be thinking about making their own OS. Then M$ would have to make their own PC.

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 9/18/2008 3:35 AM
 
If this is the real nimbus, welcome back.

Die Zeit ist jetzt. Der Platz ist hier.
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 9/18/2008 9:26 AM
 
What's up, kolop.

/pinches self

Yep, I'm real.
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 9/18/2008 9:38 AM
 
  They are still doing the ads, they are just dropping Seinfeld.  That sounds like spin to me, considering what they paid him.  What follows is from the New York Times...

Echoing the Campaign of a Rival, Microsoft Aims to Redefine ‘I’m a PC’

RELAX, computer users, after only two weeks Microsoft will stop teasing you as the company begins the next phase of an ambitious — and risky — $300 million campaign intended to make over its tarnished image.

The campaign, which begins Thursday and carries the theme “Windows. Life without walls,” will move away from the enigmatic teaser commercials that featured Bill Gates and Jerry Seinfeld in offbeat conversations about shopping, shoes, suburbia and the potential of computing to improve life. The teaser ads have generated considerable discussion since they started on Sept. 4, not all of it positive.

What follows is an audacious embrace of the disdainful label that Apple, Microsoft’s rival, has gleefully — and successfully — affixed onto users of Microsoft products: “I’m a PC.”

One new Microsoft commercial even begins with a company engineer who resembles John Hodgman, the comedian portraying the loser PC character in the Apple campaign. “Hello, I’m a PC,” the engineer says, echoing Mr. Hodgman’s recurring line, “and I’ve been made into a stereotype.”

The strategy to use the Apple attack as the basis for a counterstrike is typical for the agency behind the campaign, Crispin Porter & Bogusky.

Crispin Porter, part of MDC Partners, relishes efforts to transform perceived negatives into positives. For another client, Burger King, the calorie-stuffed menu is portrayed to a target audience of young men as a rebellious personal choice to “Have it your way.”

Mr. Gates makes a cameo appearance in the new Microsoft spots, along with celebrities like the actress Eva Longoria, the author Deepak Chopra and the singer Pharrell Williams. (Mr. Seinfeld is gone, at least for now.)

But the stars are everyday PC users, from scientists and fashion designers to shark hunters and teachers, all of whom affirm, in fast-paced, upbeat vignettes, their pride in using the computers that run on Microsoft operating systems and software.

Among them are more than 60 Microsoft employees, who are accompanied in the ads by e-mail addresses — even Mr. Gates’s (bill@windows.com).

Apple executives have been “using a lot of their money to de-position our brand and tell people what we stand for,” said David Webster, general manager for brand marketing at Microsoft in Redmond, Wash.

“They’ve made a caricature out of the PC,” he added, which was unacceptable because “you always want to own your own story.”

The campaign illustrates “a strong desire” among Microsoft managers “to take back that narrative,” Mr. Webster said, and “have a conversation about the real PC.”

A giant advertiser responding to the disparagement of a smaller rival can be fraught with peril. Consumers may see it as a validation of the claims, or even bullying. On the other hand, ignoring the taunts can damage images and sales.

In the car-rental wars, the market leader, Hertz, long kept silent about a cheeky Avis campaign that proclaimed: “We’re No. 2. We try harder.” But after Avis revenue grew robustly, Hertz shot back: “For years, Avis has been telling you Hertz is No. 1. Now we’re going to tell you why.”

Similarly, Coca-Cola said nothing as Pepsi-Cola challenged its hegemony in the cola category — until it turned tradition upside-down in 1985 by bringing out New Coke, with a more Pepsi-like taste. Roger A. Enrico, who was in charge of the PepsiCo beverage business, celebrated by co-writing a book titled “The Other Guy Blinked: How Pepsi Won the Cola Wars.”

Riffing on the Apple ads is “a smart way of changing the dialogue,” Mr. Webster said, “without taking them through the mud.”

Charles Rosen, chief executive at Amalgamated, an agency in New York that specializes in what he calls “cultural branding” for clients like Ben & Jerry’s ice cream, said it made sense for Microsoft to engage Apple.

Through its campaign, which mocks the PC as it celebrates the Macintosh, “Apple represents the ideology of Silicon Valley, taking on big business as in Microsoft,” Mr. Rosen said.

That gives Apple “badge value, identity value,” he added, among consumers who prize brands they deem populist.

Trying to gain more firepower for ads by generating talk in the popular culture is another tactic of Crispin Porter’s. For example, commercials for Volkswagen became the subject of considerable buzz because they showed something rarely depicted in auto advertising: sudden crashes.

That was what the two-week Microsoft teaser campaign accomplished, according to companies that track discussions about brands.

At first, “the ads were ambiguous and confounding to some,” said Ted Marzilli, senior vice president and general manager of the brand group at the New York office of YouGovPolimetrix, a research company, but as they continued they helped improve perceptions about Microsoft.

On Sept. 4, when the teaser ads started, the “buzz” about Microsoft was 25 percent positive and 13 percent negative, Mr. Marzilli said, and by Tuesday it was 28 percent positive and 8 percent negative. Microsoft “has been beat up pretty badly by the Apple advertisements in the last six months,” he said. “These are strong numbers, good numbers, for Microsoft.”

Another research company, Zeta Interactive, using what it calls its Relevant Noise tool to mine places online like blogs and message boards for brand conversations, found what was described as overwhelmingly positive buzz surrounding Microsoft from Sept. 3 through Monday.

Of the posts analyzed by Relevant Noise during that stage of the teaser campaign, 63 percent were characterized as positive and 37 percent as negative.

“It did what it needed to do,” said Rob Reilly, partner and co-executive creative director at Crispin Porter in Boulder, Colo., and Miami. “People who got it, got it.”

To segue from the teaser ads to the actual campaign, he added, the phrase “I’m a PC” will serve to “set up the notion the real PC is not necessarily who we’ve been portrayed as” in the Apple ads.

“You can ignore it,” Mr. Reilly said of the Apple campaign, “or you can find a clever way to embrace it, to hug it to death, to turn it to your advantage.”

The celebration of PC users is intended to show them “connected to this community,” he added, “of people who are creative, who are passionate.”

As for the risks of responding to a smaller competitor, “Apple has done a tremendous job marketing their products,” Mr. Reilly said, so “I don’t know if it’s David versus Goliath anymore.”

The theme of “Life without walls” was the concept for the Microsoft campaign “from the beginning,” he added, because it declares “that the goal of Windows is to help remove the walls in your life, now and in the future.”

In addition to commercials on television shows like “Grey’s Anatomy” on Thursday, ads will appear in local and national newspapers in addition to new content added to the windows.com Web site, which will be reachable from the microsite lifewithoutwalls.com.

Coming magazine and outdoor ads focus on how Windows can be used for mobile devices, TV sets and laptops along with PCs.

Beginning on Thursday night, visitors to windows.com will be able to upload video clips and photographs demonstrating how they, too, are PCs. Some photos will be chosen to appear on electronic signs in Times Square from Friday through Oct. 13 and others will be chosen for use in Microsoft banner ads.

“This is just the beginning, the first phase of the campaign,” said Mich Mathews, senior vice president for marketing at Microsoft. “We’re on a journey to reposition the PC.”

“The conventional wisdom may be, ‘Hey this is motivated by Apple,’ ” she added, “but there has been a re-engineering of Microsoft.”

Ms. Mathews listed several steps to improve the consumer perception of Windows, which has been tarnished by problems with the Vista operating systems. Among them are the hiring by Microsoft of hundreds of trained employees, or Windows gurus, to work at retailers like Best Buy and Circuit City.

As for Mr. Seinfeld, will he return at some point?

“Jerry is a friend of the agency and Microsoft,” Mr. Reilly of Crispin Porter said, adding in a sly allusion to Brand X, “You like to keep your friends close — and your enemies closer.”


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 9/18/2008 10:41 AM
 
What does the ads "sell?"

I think that Microsoft need to work on something worth wanting, THEN the ads might be more effective to garner mindshare.
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 9/19/2008 12:07 PM
 
 Modified By Knowledge  on 9/19/2008 12:08:53 PM
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 9/19/2008 7:27 PM
 
The new ad IS better. Too bad their products aren't.
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 9/19/2008 9:47 PM
 
the new ad is ok, it certainly is better than the previous ones. but i'm a bit perplexed at why they used a Mac computer and Adobe software to sell Vista and Expression Studio

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 9/20/2008 6:55 PM
 
Did the ad try to sell Vista or Expression Studio?  I thought it was just saying that people are doing different things with their PC. 

It's like saying the Mac ads are being broadcast and switched with Windows software in the TV studio.  So maybe Apple should broadcast their own television signals so no PC computers are used in the distribution of the Mac ads.

Neither party is saying the other doesn't exist.  Unless you are looking at a different commercial than the one I linked to.
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 9/21/2008 1:34 AM
 
hmm, i don't think thats the same thing
its different for Microsoft to use competitor's products to sell their own rather than saying a 3rd party who is paid to air the ads uses different products than what the ads are carrying

plus i don't know of many places in media that aren't using macs now.

i'm just pointing out that since the company won't use their own products in creating marketing materials it is a big indictment against them.



anyways, have you seen the new balmer screaming video? the old back to the future spoof microsoft did for teched 07 is making the rounds once again too. thats actually a REALLY spoof. too bad it was only used at the teched conference :( check it out if you haven't seen it. they get the guy from the original film to be part of the spoof too. shame it was for nothing.

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 9/23/2008 4:59 AM
 
I saw the balmer screaming video where he screamed "I AM A PC, AND I LOVE THIS COMPANY!!!!"
it looked like he was gonna eat/punch the camera, then go have him a baby sandwich and wash that down with rocket fuel...
balmer gives me the creeps...

SegamanXero
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 9/23/2008 11:59 AM
 
You know, Microsoft is setting up Ray Ozzie to succeed Balmer.  I'm just curious as to when that will happen.  Balmer is super rich.  The guy should retire. 
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 9/23/2008 5:51 PM
 
admin wrote
Did the ad try to sell Vista or Expression Studio?  I thought it was just saying that people are doing different things with their PC. 

It's like saying the Mac ads are being broadcast and switched with Windows software in the TV studio.  So maybe Apple should broadcast their own television signals so no PC computers are used in the distribution of the Mac ads.

Neither party is saying the other doesn't exist.  Unless you are looking at a different commercial than the one I linked to.

No, but the ad was about the biggest "me too" that I've seen in a bit. It wasn't a bad ad, but it's not the type of ad that comes from a huge company like Microsoft. The thing is, most people don't even think about Microsoft when they use their products, even though they might need them. They don't WANT them.

Apple's stuff, people "want".

Besides, Microsoft isn't "really" the "PC". They are the operating system. Apple likes to control their entire experience, which is why you probably won't see them sell their OS separately. Microsoft mainly wants the marketshare and money, though there's nothing wrong with either of those. It's just that you need to focus on the consumer and how they use things sometimes.

Once you go Mac, you never go back.
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 9/24/2008 7:58 PM
 
I liked the new "I'm a pc" ad. I showed it to a friend and he agreed it was good and much better than the Seinfeld ads. I liked the diversity and all encompassing theme of the commercial. I've heard some people say it only re enforces the view that Microsoft isn't original and lame people use "PCs". I guess I could see that too, but I still liked it.
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